Kathleen Cohen is the founder of the Collaboratorium, a consultancy that creates enhanced guest experiences, in multi-use environments, through digital, AI/ML, XR, computer vision, and immersive and experiential thought leaders. She has previously worked with  DreamWorks, IBM innovation, and Disney Resorts, among others. Kathleen talks with Brian Ardinger, Inside Outside Founder, about innovation’s future through experiential technology. What changes have you seen in innovation? - Kathleen was first an artist, then moved to digital, and now back to physical space. - Innovation brought the data layover to experiences, and now AI and Machine Learning are making an impact. How has innovation changed because of tech? - Started as a digital strategist and now calls herself an experiential strategist - Kathleen helped launch Disneyworld.com and soon found herself asked to join the 1st meeting on Disney’s creative team to help re-architect Epcot. Although Kathleen started her own consultancy at that point, her colleagues helped create the magic band. It took nine years with substantial design challenges but brought Disney closer to the customer. Now for six years, the magic band has been collecting data which they can use to tell stories. Disney brought a holistic approach to the innovation experience. What other companies are innovating? - Companies that are moving to the spatial web, spatial web computing, meta-verse building, and world-building  - E.g., Magic Leap moved from Goggles to focusing on a Metaverse. - How do we use the Metaverse in urban planning? Meeting Your Digital Twin Talk is a move towards humanism - If I looked at your digital trails, would you look different than your data says? - ACLU of AI and Algorithmic justice league - Organizations questioning AI - Where is agency over identity? What is mine? - Questions of digital rights and citizenship when creating digital humans Are there common characteristics people should be building on to be better innovators? - Storytelling vs. data-driven  - Need for artists asking collaboration questions.   To find out more - To find out more about Kathleen or The Collaboratorium, email kc@thecollaboratorium.com or see http://thecollaboratorium.com For similar podcasts, check out: - Ep. 134– Paramount Pictures’ Futurist Ted Schilowitz on VR, AR & Mixed Reality - Ep. 135– Nara Logics CEO and E.N. Thompson Lecturer Jana Eggers on Artificial Intelligence’s Past and Future - Ep. 145– Laura Anne Edwards, DATA OASIS founder, NASA Datanaut, TED Resident & SheCanHackIT on Sustainable Innovation and Big Data Find this episode of Inside Outside Innovation at insideoutside.io. You can also listen on Acast, iTunes, Sticher, Spotify, and Google Play.   FREE INNOVATION NEWSLETTER Get the latest episodes of the Inside Outside Innovation podcast, in addition to thought leadership in the form of blogs, innovation resources, videos, and invitations to exclusive events. SUBSCRIBE HERE For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy